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Dose Polaris really make Victory's in the US? Victory claims "American Motorcycle", American Muscle", and "American Value" but I haven't seen Made in America in their ads. Is Victory doing like Harley and importing parts from over seas and putting them together in the US or do they make everything here?
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Yes, almost everything but the wiring harness and the brakes (brembo's) is made in the US. The last stat I read was they were 86% US made. I have a 06 Victory Kingpin, have taken it apart, and have yet to see a made in china/mexico like my harleys did and my ford does. Every single one is built in Spirit Lake, Iowa. Jap cruisers are made to imitate harleys, The first victory (the v92), pulled some design cues from both honda and harley and really was not a great bike, but since the 03 Vegas, Victory has had its own unique forward thinking design both asthetically and in the engineering. Check out the Vegas Jackpot, or the Cross Country, and if you really want to trip, take a good look at the Vision. I have had Harleys, Hondas, Kawis, and now a Victory, and my kingpin is the best bike I have owned and better than all the cruisers I have ridden, except the cross country (my next bike). I may sound like a fanboy, but I really love these bikes and encourage everyone to take one for a spin. Thats what changed my mind. Victory is the cruiser of my generation ( I'm 24) and I believe them to be the future of american motorcycles. I have nothing against Harley's, except the dependability of mine were deplorable, and even wear most of my harley apparel, including my trusty jacket all the time, but they as a company cannot really innovate due to their clientele. The corner the market on the nostalgic american motorcyclist and have a proud heritage to uphold. Victory has chosen to compete by making a better looking, more reliable, and much more powerful american motorcycle.
just my $.02 as a current victory owner and former harley owner.
Yes, almost everything but the wiring harness and the brakes (brembo's) is made in the US. The last stat I read was they were 86% US made. I have a 06 Victory Kingpin, have taken it apart, and have yet to see a made in china/mexico like my harleys did and my ford does. Every single one is built in Spirit Lake, Iowa. Jap cruisers are made to imitate harleys, The first victory (the v92), pulled some design cues from both honda and harley and really was not a great bike, but since the 03 Vegas, Victory has had its own unique forward thinking design both asthetically and in the engineering. Check out the Vegas Jackpot, or the Cross Country, and if you really want to trip, take a good look at the Vision. I have had Harleys, Hondas, Kawis, and now a Victory, and my kingpin is the best bike I have owned and better than all the cruisers I have ridden, except the cross country (my next bike). I may sound like a fanboy, but I really love these bikes and encourage everyone to take one for a spin. Thats what changed my mind. Victory is the cruiser of my generation ( I'm 24) and I believe them to be the future of american motorcycles. I have nothing against Harley's, except the dependability of mine were deplorable, and even wear most of my harley apparel, including my trusty jacket all the time, but they as a company cannot really innovate due to their clientele. The corner the market on the nostalgic american motorcyclist and have a proud heritage to uphold. Victory has chosen to compete by making a better looking, more reliable, and much more powerful american motorcycle.
just my $.02 as a current victory owner and former harley owner.
Should I buy a New or Used motorcycle?
I am 18 years old, ridden dirt bikes for two years and want a street motorcycle. My brother has a R1 he said he bought it new because he wouldnt upgrade in the future.
Im looking at the 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250r, buy new or used? and why?
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Used, always used. There is zero real world reason to ever buy a new vehicle. Doing the break-in won't mean the bike lasts longer, is less fun to ride, or is more reliable. It might mean a half HP difference... but then again, you could get that just in the day that a bike was assembled, they're all different. But it Does mean skipping out on the instant 10~20% depreciation just by signing your name. Instead, you can take advantage of that loss in value/depreciation. The biggest hit is in the first couple of years (so if you look at a 2009 or 2010 bike, it's even better from a financial standpoint ~ there is ZERO functional difference between the 201, 2010, 2009 and 2008 EX250s)
I've owned and ridden the Kawasaki 250's for 7 years now. First a 2001, then a 2008, and now a 2005 (I like the older models much better). When you get advice Away from the 250's, ask those people how long they've ridden 250s just so you can compare experience levels. The bike is more than capable of breaking every speed limit in the US, droning along on the highway for hours on end (I've done both 1,000 mile weekends and multiday, multi-state road trips)or hitting the local racetrack. The only functional difference is that the 250 spins a little higher in the RPM range, at about 70% of the ability at 75mph ~ it's not being hurt by this, but it does take a little bit to get used to it.
Anyway, where your brother is probably surviving his time on an R1, if you get on the 250 and really learn to ride, it wouldn't be too long before you could be leaving him in the dust whenever the road gets twisty. I'm forever walking away from riders who started on 600/750/1000cc sports bikes because they Never learn how to go around a corner. All they know is to hold on and twist the throttle in a straight line, then tippy-toe around corners. It's a very humorous sight watching these wanna-bes act all bad, till they're humiliated by someone who can actually ride a motorcycle. You'll also be Safer if you learn to corner your bike by allowing yourself more skill to maneuver around bonehead car drivers. The light weight and ample steering angle will make the bike infinitely better for any in-town/slow speed riding too. For a little over a year, 2 of the bikes in my garage were the '08 250 and an '06 YZF600R ~ I had a 15 mile, in-town commute and I took the 250 every time but once. It only took me one time to realize it was a Horrible bike for commuting/town riding. The YZF was sold not much later, never to be replaced because the replacement was already in the garage.
Anyway, best of luck.
Used, always used. There is zero real world reason to ever buy a new vehicle. Doing the break-in won't mean the bike lasts longer, is less fun to ride, or is more reliable. It might mean a half HP difference... but then again, you could get that just in the day that a bike was assembled, they're all different. But it Does mean skipping out on the instant 10~20% depreciation just by signing your name. Instead, you can take advantage of that loss in value/depreciation. The biggest hit is in the first couple of years (so if you look at a 2009 or 2010 bike, it's even better from a financial standpoint ~ there is ZERO functional difference between the 201, 2010, 2009 and 2008 EX250s)
I've owned and ridden the Kawasaki 250's for 7 years now. First a 2001, then a 2008, and now a 2005 (I like the older models much better). When you get advice Away from the 250's, ask those people how long they've ridden 250s just so you can compare experience levels. The bike is more than capable of breaking every speed limit in the US, droning along on the highway for hours on end (I've done both 1,000 mile weekends and multiday, multi-state road trips)or hitting the local racetrack. The only functional difference is that the 250 spins a little higher in the RPM range, at about 70% of the ability at 75mph ~ it's not being hurt by this, but it does take a little bit to get used to it.
Anyway, where your brother is probably surviving his time on an R1, if you get on the 250 and really learn to ride, it wouldn't be too long before you could be leaving him in the dust whenever the road gets twisty. I'm forever walking away from riders who started on 600/750/1000cc sports bikes because they Never learn how to go around a corner. All they know is to hold on and twist the throttle in a straight line, then tippy-toe around corners. It's a very humorous sight watching these wanna-bes act all bad, till they're humiliated by someone who can actually ride a motorcycle. You'll also be Safer if you learn to corner your bike by allowing yourself more skill to maneuver around bonehead car drivers. The light weight and ample steering angle will make the bike infinitely better for any in-town/slow speed riding too. For a little over a year, 2 of the bikes in my garage were the '08 250 and an '06 YZF600R ~ I had a 15 mile, in-town commute and I took the 250 every time but once. It only took me one time to realize it was a Horrible bike for commuting/town riding. The YZF was sold not much later, never to be replaced because the replacement was already in the garage.
Anyway, best of luck.
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